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	<title>Comments on: Ref elitism underlines Ovrebo witch hunt</title>
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		<title>By: RichardM</title>
		<link>http://www.dexysden.co.uk/2009/05/ref-elitism-underlines-ovrebo-witch-hunt/comment-page-1/#comment-17255</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the most incompetent referee I have ever seen - and that comes from someone who has see Mike Riley and David Elleray on quite a few occasions - so Ovrebo is up against some pretty stiff competition for that title.

Chelsea denied a Final place and this whole eposode only served to devalue Barce&#039;s victory, though I would think they couldn&#039;t care less, as is natural. The point is the not about Chelsea fans complaining or others gloating, it&#039;s about the whole refereeing system being outdated. This fiasco would not have occurred if there had been ref in the stands with video playback available. In the time it takes Ovrebo to panic and make his bad decisions, the &quot;video ref&quot; could have played the footage back and given a fair decision.

The argument that this would slow the game down is without merit. The referee stops play all the time anyway, so he might as well be able to make the correct decision into the bargain instead of causing delay and adding insult to injury (sometimes literally) by penalising the wrong team.

Also, while we&#039;re at it, seeing as Drogba got so much criticism when he got too emotional and became abusive, let&#039;s have microphones on the refs permanently. This would mean that no players can bully referees without their words being broadcast to the nation. And wouldn&#039;t it be great to hear exactly what Alex Ferguson is whispering in their ears as he grabs them and walks down the tunnel with them EVERY half-time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the most incompetent referee I have ever seen &#8211; and that comes from someone who has see Mike Riley and David Elleray on quite a few occasions &#8211; so Ovrebo is up against some pretty stiff competition for that title.</p>
<p>Chelsea denied a Final place and this whole eposode only served to devalue Barce&#8217;s victory, though I would think they couldn&#8217;t care less, as is natural. The point is the not about Chelsea fans complaining or others gloating, it&#8217;s about the whole refereeing system being outdated. This fiasco would not have occurred if there had been ref in the stands with video playback available. In the time it takes Ovrebo to panic and make his bad decisions, the &#8220;video ref&#8221; could have played the footage back and given a fair decision.</p>
<p>The argument that this would slow the game down is without merit. The referee stops play all the time anyway, so he might as well be able to make the correct decision into the bargain instead of causing delay and adding insult to injury (sometimes literally) by penalising the wrong team.</p>
<p>Also, while we&#8217;re at it, seeing as Drogba got so much criticism when he got too emotional and became abusive, let&#8217;s have microphones on the refs permanently. This would mean that no players can bully referees without their words being broadcast to the nation. And wouldn&#8217;t it be great to hear exactly what Alex Ferguson is whispering in their ears as he grabs them and walks down the tunnel with them EVERY half-time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
		<link>http://www.dexysden.co.uk/2009/05/ref-elitism-underlines-ovrebo-witch-hunt/comment-page-1/#comment-14004</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed Redknapp say Andy Gay, made my night even better! 

Top article mate :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed Redknapp say Andy Gay, made my night even better! </p>
<p>Top article mate <img src='http://www.dexysden.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Martin Tibbetts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Tibbetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my eye the ref at the semi final made 2 very wrong decisions - the Pique one and the sending off. he also made an error in giving a free kick, in or out of the box, for the early foul on Malouda. He didn&#039;t have a great game, but he wasn&#039;t that bad. The only reason everybody is saying he was a disaster is because that fuckwit Andy Gray and his cronies said so on the night so vehemently..oh and a couple of seriel cheats in blue swore at him

Bring in video technology and it will get worse - why? Because pundits don&#039;t know the rules of the game, its that simple. I saw one, maybe Tyldesley, the other day say a penalty shouldn&#039;t be given for a push because the player was on his way down anyway - ITS STILL A PUSH! Of course that player was representing a British team and the striker hitting the deck was not....

the only people qualified to make the decisions are referees, and the only people who make a noise when they think they are wrong are the f@@king pundits. But the key here is the fact that very often you hear a penalty described as &#039;debatable&#039;. In that word lies the reaon why it can&#039;t work. Decisions are not always black and white, its that simple, so they need to be left to the man in the middle with the help of his two linesmen. And let Gray and his cronies continue to earn their millions for being wrong most of the time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my eye the ref at the semi final made 2 very wrong decisions &#8211; the Pique one and the sending off. he also made an error in giving a free kick, in or out of the box, for the early foul on Malouda. He didn&#8217;t have a great game, but he wasn&#8217;t that bad. The only reason everybody is saying he was a disaster is because that fuckwit Andy Gray and his cronies said so on the night so vehemently..oh and a couple of seriel cheats in blue swore at him</p>
<p>Bring in video technology and it will get worse &#8211; why? Because pundits don&#8217;t know the rules of the game, its that simple. I saw one, maybe Tyldesley, the other day say a penalty shouldn&#8217;t be given for a push because the player was on his way down anyway &#8211; ITS STILL A PUSH! Of course that player was representing a British team and the striker hitting the deck was not&#8230;.</p>
<p>the only people qualified to make the decisions are referees, and the only people who make a noise when they think they are wrong are the f@@king pundits. But the key here is the fact that very often you hear a penalty described as &#8216;debatable&#8217;. In that word lies the reaon why it can&#8217;t work. Decisions are not always black and white, its that simple, so they need to be left to the man in the middle with the help of his two linesmen. And let Gray and his cronies continue to earn their millions for being wrong most of the time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all yours Teflon and Sam

Good point Matt, it&#039;s not like Rwugger, Rwugger, Ra, Ra, Ra. 

The only thing they should do is make sure the ref consults the linesman for every decision. Plus why are Refs always so old? They should younger and be able to keep up with play. Actually, what about Henry, he&#039;d be great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all yours Teflon and Sam</p>
<p>Good point Matt, it&#8217;s not like Rwugger, Rwugger, Ra, Ra, Ra. </p>
<p>The only thing they should do is make sure the ref consults the linesman for every decision. Plus why are Refs always so old? They should younger and be able to keep up with play. Actually, what about Henry, he&#8217;d be great!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We cant have video replays... simply because there is no natural break in play in football. Imagine one team thinks they should have had a penalty but the ball doesnt go out of play-- and then the other team starts to break down the field attacking. If it turns out it wasnt a penalty- then youve just punished the team who was counter-attacking.

It would never work. The only time you should ever consider it, is goal-line technology. The linesman should be able to hear a bleep if a ball crosses the goal-line- and then a goal can be given.

Thats all. Any other technology would ruin the game completely. Plus it would give pundits nothing to talk about! (actually- might be a good thing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We cant have video replays&#8230; simply because there is no natural break in play in football. Imagine one team thinks they should have had a penalty but the ball doesnt go out of play&#8211; and then the other team starts to break down the field attacking. If it turns out it wasnt a penalty- then youve just punished the team who was counter-attacking.</p>
<p>It would never work. The only time you should ever consider it, is goal-line technology. The linesman should be able to hear a bleep if a ball crosses the goal-line- and then a goal can be given.</p>
<p>Thats all. Any other technology would ruin the game completely. Plus it would give pundits nothing to talk about! (actually- might be a good thing)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cud make quite a few enemies doing that...but from the top of my head...it would have to be the Scousers!! No suprises there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cud make quite a few enemies doing that&#8230;but from the top of my head&#8230;it would have to be the Scousers!! No suprises there.</p>
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		<title>By: Tef1on</title>
		<link>http://www.dexysden.co.uk/2009/05/ref-elitism-underlines-ovrebo-witch-hunt/comment-page-1/#comment-13911</link>
		<dc:creator>Tef1on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh oh oh let me do Newcastle!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh oh oh let me do Newcastle!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats actually a pretty good idea for a new column.

Do u want to do one Sam? What club do u not like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats actually a pretty good idea for a new column.</p>
<p>Do u want to do one Sam? What club do u not like?</p>
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		<title>By: Tef1on</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tef1on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Darren... I agree he was class, I was more angry at Wengers choice not to play 2 of the big lads upfront when the Chavski back 2 are huge! He wants to play wingers, but no one is tall enough to challenge in the box. I&#039;d give Bendtner an 8 /10 for his game on Sunday. By far one of the only players who didnt let the fans down (for once)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Darren&#8230; I agree he was class, I was more angry at Wengers choice not to play 2 of the big lads upfront when the Chavski back 2 are huge! He wants to play wingers, but no one is tall enough to challenge in the box. I&#8217;d give Bendtner an 8 /10 for his game on Sunday. By far one of the only players who didnt let the fans down (for once)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m intrigued about this &quot;10 things I hate about Chelsea&quot; article you mention Darren...is this gonna be a regular feature on every club to keep it in good faith or are you laying down the law to chelsea fans and hoping there arent any regular boys from the Kings Road who are avid readers??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m intrigued about this &#8220;10 things I hate about Chelsea&#8221; article you mention Darren&#8230;is this gonna be a regular feature on every club to keep it in good faith or are you laying down the law to chelsea fans and hoping there arent any regular boys from the Kings Road who are avid readers??</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.dexysden.co.uk/2009/05/ref-elitism-underlines-ovrebo-witch-hunt/comment-page-1/#comment-13903</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surely they must be able to come up with an iPod type of device that shows replys which only the ref can see? 

It does seem rather daft that all the billions in the game it all comes down to one bloke...

Teflon is a hard man to please, look how good Bendtner was on Sunday, yet I bet he still hates him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely they must be able to come up with an iPod type of device that shows replys which only the ref can see? </p>
<p>It does seem rather daft that all the billions in the game it all comes down to one bloke&#8230;</p>
<p>Teflon is a hard man to please, look how good Bendtner was on Sunday, yet I bet he still hates him!</p>
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		<title>By: dexylongshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>dexylongshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 10:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all comes down to 1 person in the end. The ref. The pressure is huge and he can&#039;t see everything, that&#039;s why i&#039;m in favour of technology. 

If the ref can&#039;t decide because he didn&#039;t see the tackle/foul/goal properly, It goes to a small panel of refs in a room on their jack with the Andy Gayesque Ferguson Videostar at their disposal. They can review the replays from  different angles in slo-mo and give the ref their decision over the bluetooth. Each team can have something like 5 time they can question a decision.

It happens in Tennis &amp; Rugby and no one can have no complaints. 
Look at the last World Cup Rugby Final. England where given a nono on a certain try (from where i was sitting block z at the other end), but on closer expection, the panel got it spot on, no try (by a matter of millimeteres).
No complaints, play on chaps. 
We would have only beat the Germans 3-2 in 66 but i&#039;d take that to stop them moaning.
It would only take a minute or two and when you look at how many minutes Drogba rolled around for, I&#039;d hapilly stay the extra 10 minutes each game and walk out of the ground not feeling robbed because a ref didn&#039;t see something properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all comes down to 1 person in the end. The ref. The pressure is huge and he can&#8217;t see everything, that&#8217;s why i&#8217;m in favour of technology. </p>
<p>If the ref can&#8217;t decide because he didn&#8217;t see the tackle/foul/goal properly, It goes to a small panel of refs in a room on their jack with the Andy Gayesque Ferguson Videostar at their disposal. They can review the replays from  different angles in slo-mo and give the ref their decision over the bluetooth. Each team can have something like 5 time they can question a decision.</p>
<p>It happens in Tennis &amp; Rugby and no one can have no complaints.<br />
Look at the last World Cup Rugby Final. England where given a nono on a certain try (from where i was sitting block z at the other end), but on closer expection, the panel got it spot on, no try (by a matter of millimeteres).<br />
No complaints, play on chaps.<br />
We would have only beat the Germans 3-2 in 66 but i&#8217;d take that to stop them moaning.<br />
It would only take a minute or two and when you look at how many minutes Drogba rolled around for, I&#8217;d hapilly stay the extra 10 minutes each game and walk out of the ground not feeling robbed because a ref didn&#8217;t see something properly.</p>
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